There are very few limitations to who is allowed to speak at America’s largest protestant church. Life.Church is America’s largest woke church, and it is helmed by false teacher, Craig Groeschel. Bianca Olthoff is a run in the mill Prosperity Gospel preacher. She came to Craig Groeschel’s church to preach the Jesus is your boyfriend gospel.
Right off the bat, she begins with the intellectually beneath contempt premise that it is widely taught or assumed that sex is bad in the church. So she has this uphill battle of convincing people what they already know: physical attraction and sex are good things and God ordained. Speaking like she hosts a morning show on a pop station, Bianca Olthoff addresses the objection that the Bible is boring, which is her avenue to this bit she pulls.
She begins reading a passage of Song of Solomon. Because she presumes that a woman in the Bible is black, she states that she pictures her wearing hoop earrings and being from the “south side” of the kingdom. She also then claims that she would sound like Cardi B. And so she reads the passage in her best Cardi B impression. Included in the denigrating reading are sound effects that Cardi B would make in her speech.
It’s worth pointing out that Olthoff is comparing a righteous woman to a modern rapper who’s background specializes in posing as a hooker to rob unsuspecting men.
Life.Church is wicked on numerous fronts, but this tale begins with egalitarianism.
Ya know, I admire your zeal, but most of the time, when reading these articles of yours, you seem to be OVERsealous. From seeing you in the video, you are YOUNG, and not as wise as you want to be. You need to slow down before you FALSELY accuse other Christians of being FALSE this, and FALSE that.
If you read the Song of Solomon, it’s pretty graphic for a PURITAN mindset.
As the old song from the 80’s goes, “Don’t drink, don’t smoke, what do you do?”
And, therefore, I can understand why you have a problem with someone speaking in a Cardi-B fashion. You don’t want to acknowledge the Penthouse Forum style that the Song of Solomon was written. This is why most BAPTIST church’s try to avoid doing, “expository” preaching on it. It’s graphic.
But, the Bible is NOT SUPPOSED TO BE spiritually interpreted in an expository manner, and that is why most Christians, outside of PURITAN standards, equate this with God’s PASSONATE love for his creation.
We do NOT yet understand God’s love for us. We don’t have the capability to understand it. You love your wife. Sex is a part of that expression of love. The two become one. We are created in the image of God, both male and female. Sex is an expression of that love, not just for making babies. You should know that.
NO, Jesus is not our boyfriend in that manner, BUT, he loves us with the love that a husband and wife have for each other.
We are the BRIDE of Christ, whether you be a male, or a female, and altho our life with Christ, once married (marraige supper hasn’t happened yet), will be sexless, we will know and feel the passion of Christ’s love for us.
Before you go slamming Christians about how they preach, research JEWISH web sites about how the Jews themselves see it. Remember, without the Jews, there would be no Christianity. We worship their God! Prophesies of Jesus was written by Jews, not Gentiles. So, there are a lot of Jewish websites that you can research.
It gets annoying and not believable when you spend all of your time falsely accusing people of being false teachers, just because you don’t like what they say.
A quote from that link states:
“The commentaries suggest that Rabbi Akiva’s affinity for the Song of Songs stems from his metaphorical understanding of its contents, reading the Song as an extended allegory to the loving relationship between God and Israel.”
Why would any Christian promote Cardi B?! Especially in church. And just because you found a Jewish website to some what agree with you. That means nothing. Jews can be wrong about stuff. Like most are wrong about Jesus. I have no problem with church leaders talking about sex. But have some class about it. Stop being of this world. Hold other believers to a higher Godly standard. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK RAY!!
Dude, please, it’s not about Cardi-B. But it’s a song, and it’s racy! And it’s in the Bible. If you don’t like what the Song of Solomon states, DELETE IT FROM YOUR BIBLE while in church.
Slam your thumb in a car door and see what comes out of your mouth. I’ll bet it’s worse that what Cardi-B would sing!
Do you know who Cardi b is? Have you heard about her music. If I slammed my hand in a car door. I might cuss. But no way that’s comparable to a Cardi b song. She promotes promiscuity to millions of people including young children. Look up the lyrics to WAP. I have no problem with Song of Solomon. Or talking about Gods gift to a man and his wife, sex. And if I shut my hand in car door and cuss . Still doesn’t make it right. And how about. The fact that the Bible says she shouldn’t be preaching?
You might cuss? In a “classy way”, tho, right? LOL. Apparently YOU KNOW who Cardi-B is! How? Have you read the lyrics? I have NO IDEA who she is, I have heard of the name, and the controversy, and I could CARE LESS!
So what if someone uses her as an example? Have you ever read PENTHOUSE FORUM before? Probably not, you are probably too young to even know what that is.
YOU are making Cardi as the SUBJECT. The lady in the video was using her as an EXAMPLE, and I don’t have a problem with that.
IF you have a problem with Cardi, change the channel. I don’t watch music video’s anymore. I haven’t watched music videos since the 1990’s, when MTV became REALITY shows. Besides, I’m too busy with my life to even watch TV. I’m an 80’s fan.
But I know you people have a problem with ROCK AND ROLL, too, as if it were the DEVILS MUSIC. Led Zepplin back masking, Ozzy Osbourne the demon, yada, yada. By the way, you have BORING Hymns. Get with the times, man…NEWSBOYS ROCKS!
Adam KNEW his wife. But you know dog gone well that your MIND actually states that Adam blankety blanked his wife!
Don’t be so self righteous, dude!
This conversation of ours on this reminds me of an old Sanford and Son episode, where old ugly Aunt Edna told Fred Sanford, “Well, I never!”, for which Fred responded, “I bet you did!”
Why do you keep acting like you know me? I used to watch Sanford and son with my dad. Funny show. Great intro and theme song!
If and when I watch TV, those are the shows I watch, as well. I grew up watching the original episodes, not the re-runs.
Here is another great website that I use often:
So you promote Jewish web sites that reject Jesus? I have And since we are talking about Solomon and sex. No doubt Solomon loved sex. Solomons lusts lead him away from the Lord.
I have been on that website before. They reject Jesus and have no love for Christianity.
But they will. It’s all in the story in the Hebrew scriptures MANY TIMES that God will save them, but one PROPHESY about it is in the story of Joseph and his BRETHREN. Read the story and see if you can see Joseph as Jesus, and Joseph’s brothers as THE JEWS!
That’s prophesy. Oh, and Romans 11, as well, but start with chapter 9, and 10 first.
Yes, I most certainly do. Why? Salvation is of the Jews. God blinded the Jews from the very beginning so that they CAN’T see Jesus as the Savior. It is NOT their fault that they are blind. No, they are not blind because they were disobedient. They are disobedient because they are blind.
39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.
40 And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also?
41 Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.
18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
Imagine for a moment if the Jews saw Jesus as the Messiah! No one would have crucified Jesus as the PASSOVER “Lamb of God”, and the result would have been, NO ONE IS SAVED, and prophesy of Jesus being the SACRIFICE would be null and void.
It would be nice for you uneducated people to get educated about the Jews instead of badmouthing them.
There is a reason that the Song of Solomon is in the Bible. He also wrote the book of Ecclesiastes, too!
Ouch, now your name calling? That’s not very Christ like. Calling me uneducated? Do you know me? Cause I don’t know you. Let’s not tear each other apart. Let Christ’s love guide us both.
If the shoe fits! I remember Jesus calling the Pharisees a bunch of names! But I suppose you would accuse Jesus of not being Christ like, too, huh?
Wow. How am I a Pharisee? Jesus called them vipers. But you seem to be the one spitting venom. Do you think Jesus would be okay with promoting Cardi b in church? I’m not sensing the love of Christ from you brother. I’ll pray for us.
No one was promoting Cardi-B. What was being promoted was the SENSUOUS way that the Song of Solomon was written, which a lot of PURITANS find objectionable, and that lady in the video did her job quite well, because she offended you!
If you don’t acknowledge the SLUTTY way that the Song of Solomon was written, then you will never understand why that lady used Cardi-B!
Be offended for all I care. That’s your problem. The fact is, the so-called “RIGHTEOUS” woman in the Song of Solomon, probably had a WAP! But that offends you?
It’s called BIOLOGY!
Looking back at my original comment to which you said I was name calling, the only thing I said was “uneducated”. That’s not exactly what I would call name calling.
Also, I never called you a Pharisee, either. Slow down your reading!
I didn’t bad mouth all Jews. I said those websites your promoting. They reject Jesus.
“For he is not a Jew he who is one outwardly, nor is that circumcision one outwardly in the flesh, but he is a Jew that is one inwardly and circumcision is that of the heart.”
And yet, God told them to get circumcized going all the way back to Abraham, and furthermore, if one refuses to get circumcized, they are CUT OFF from their people. And WHY circumcision of the flesh?
7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.
8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.
9 And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations.
10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.
11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.
12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.
13 He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.
14 And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.
15 And God said unto Abraham, As for Sarai thy wife, thou shalt not call her name Sarai, but Sarah shall her name be.
16 And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her: yea, I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of people shall be of her.
17 Then Abraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall a child be born unto him that is an hundred years old? and shall Sarah, that is ninety years old, bear?
18 And Abraham said unto God, O that Ishmael might live before thee!
19 And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him.
20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.
21 But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.
And WHY DO THEY REJECT JESUS?
Because God wants it that way! That’s why.
Yet the Lord hath not given you an heart to perceive, and eyes to see, and ears to hear, unto this day.
Thanks Ed, Keep spreading the love.
Sarcasm is part of my charm! Harmless! Take Care!
Yep, but there is TWO different ways to look at this…one is SPIRITUAL, in which Galatians shows, as also in Galatians 3:16, too, BUT…the other is CARNAL, in which Genesis discusses.
The Promised Land and Promised Seed as Genesis 17 lays out is discussing the Physical Land of Israel, and Isaac.
Galatians then TURNS THAT into a different direction on the SPIRITUAL level.
The promised seed according to Galatians is Jesus. And since we are heirs to the PROMISE, what do you supposed the Promised Land is for us? A small piece of real estate in the middle east? NOPE.
Eternal life in HEAVEN, which the book of Hebrews describes as Hebrews 11:16
Keep in mind, that it really is a SONG! I know that makes you sick to your stomach, but it is indeed a SONG. It really is SUNG in Jewish circles! GET OUT OF YOUR IGNORANCE.
Love you brother.
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
Hey Ed, I got the last word.
Hey Al…no you haven’t!! I’ve been too busy working overtime to engage. Then I gotta put up with I-5 traffic in Tacoma. Always a crash somewhere. Takes me 2 hours to go 40 miles.