This week’s livestream brought back Pastor Sam Jones to discuss Christian Nationalism vs Classical Liberalism as it relates to America’s founding. We end up talking about that and answering many questions about the brewing debate on the subject. I invited Sam Jones on for a couple of reasons. Sam Jones and I both believed much of what now constitutes Christian Nationalism prior to the application of the label. As he authored the book 5 Steps To Kill A Nation, arguing that America has systematically abandoned the Ten Commandments, he sees enforcing the first and second table of the law as a no brainer.
We begin talking about the current debate and controversy with G3. One of the points I’ve stressed a lot on social media is that the current crop of Christian Nationalist thought leaders were those who were right about Branch Covidianism from the beginning, whereas G3 Ministries and other Big Eva were nowhere to be found on this issue. Sam Jones was active in the much freer state of Iowa.
We also discuss the relationship between apologetics and Christian Nationalism. Whereas some anti-CN have been labeled radical Biblicists on social media, it strikes me as odd. Wouldn’t presuppositional apologetics lend itself far more to Christian Nationalism rather than Classical Liberalism. While Stephen Wolfe, the author of The Case For Christian Nationalism is a Thomist, one would think that Thomism would be far more opposed to Christian governance.
On the discussion of Classical Liberalism, Sam Jones recognizes the contributions of Thomas Paine in the America Revolution comparing him to James Lindsay in the modern day. However, Jones also points out that Thomas Paine’s story does not have a happy ending, and that his godless views were left him largely unpopular at the time of his death.
As to Christian Nationalism in America’s founding Jones and I talk of several of the laws and customs at the time of America’s founding that came from an explicitly Christian worldview, including religious tests for office. So the states were explicitly Christian in their founding.
We take several viewer questions such such as whether Christian Nationalism would allow female pastors, public speaking in tongues.
We end with a discussion of eschatology, and why some premillennial dispensationalist accuse Christian Nationalism of being postmillennialist. Yet neither Sam nor I are postmillennialist.
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