On July 22, 2025, The Daily Wire host Andrew Klavan posted a 9-minute video discussing what John MacArthur said about his gay son Spencer. We were interested in what Klavan had to say because he has been taking heat lately regarding his son’s sinful lifestyle. What we found was absolutely disgusting, and a clip was posted on 𝕏 in order to bring attention to this travesty. The tweet went extremely viral as it was picked up by several other large accounts like Right Response Ministries and America First Post. Essentially, Andrew Klavan was using a private conversation with John MacArthur in order to defend his son’s sinful lifestyle, and he was doing so after MacArthur died so as to leave no opportunity for rebuttal.
Synopsis of Andrew Klavan’s Comments
Con Inc. Circles the Wagons
The viral clip quickly drew criticism from several notable figures in Con Inc: Megan Basham, Joel Berry, Lydia Leitermann (Sour Patch Lyds), and even Andrew Klavan himself.
- In a quote tweet, Andrew Klavan attempted to refute our framing of the video, “Yes, except I’m not saying that at all. You’re completely right except for being totally wrong. I fully and repeatedly acknowledged MacArthur and I were far apart on this.” But as stated earlier, Andrew said that John believes as he does, whatever that means. This is clearly doublespeak.
- As a reply, Megan Basham, a journalist at The Daily Wire, wrote, “I 100% disagree with what Andrew said here. But I don’t think he was suggesting that MacArthur secretly thought homosexuality was OK. I think he was just saying that MacArthur was being kind to his son despite his very strong convictions and teachings about homosexuality.” She views the anecdote as an act of kindness rather than endorsement, while conveniently ignoring Klavan’s misrepresentation of MacArthur’s compliment.
- Joel Berry, managing editor at The Babylon Bee, replied bluntly: “Not at all what he said you liar.” It is highly unlikely that Berry watched the video or read the tweet.
- Lydia Leitermann, former TimCast cohost who now works independently, posted two critical replies. The first called for a community note to be added to our tweet: “[Community Note] needed. Factual error. Intentional bias. Clipping of context for engagement bait. Violation of 𝕏 terms of service.” The second attacked us personally: “So you didn’t even listen. Take ‘Baptist’ out of your name. You’re an awful spokesman.” Lydia had the most dramatic crash out of any of the respondents.
Concluding Thoughts
There is no reason to believe Andrew Klavan’s framing of his conversation with John MacArthur. John was a stalwart on this issue for the entirety of his ministry, and he was not one to speak in code when in a one on one conversation. It’s highly unlikely that MacArthur even knew Spencer was gay in 2020, as this didn’t become widely known until much later. Ultimately, this was a disgusting stunt by Klavan in order to run interference for his son, and thankfully, with our help, it failed miserably.
More broadly speaking, this incident underscores the continuing battle between the more mainstream Con Inc voices and the dissident right that desires to be a distinctly Christian movement. We simply cannot win a culture war by tolerating and even celebrating sexual degeneracy within our ranks, and we will continue to expose anyone who attempts to smuggle this into our tent.
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Megan Basham and Matt Walsh should jump ship from that degenerate place before the fire and brimstone hits.
yall are fuckin nuts. get your heads out of other peoples pants and get your life together before god takes a closer look and sees where he really fucked up.