In a recent episode of The Dividing Line, prominent Antioch Declaration author Dr. James White addressed controversial remarks made by pastor Joel Webbon, igniting discussions about historical narratives, cultural guilt, and the boundaries of acceptable discourse. The clip that White was responding to came from Right Wing Watch (RWW), which is a far left organization very fond of clipping Christian Nationalists as rage bait. Interestingly, RWW has never highlighted anything James White has said.
James White’s Incredulity
For your convenience, we have clipped Dr. White’s response to Joel Webbon. White is incredulous that anyone could attribute the holocaust to any form of religion or worldview. For context, Webbon uses “Holocaustianity” to describe what he sees as a post-World War II ideological framework (consensus) that imposes undue burdens on certain demographics, especially young white men.
Per usual, this is a moment for James White to spike the football, as he sees the clip as vindication of predictions that White made about Webbon in 2024. He repeatedly tells his audience to think back to 2024, but he never actually spells out what they should be recalling. We suppose that it’s just “Webbon will get worse in 2025.”
James then plays the clip from Webbon, wherein Holocaustianity is portrayed as a “false, wicked, Satanic religion” designed to convince young white men that they are not allowed to have a future. Webbon calls for this idol to fall and crumble, likening it to other forms of imposed ideology and emphasizing the need for bold language to dismantle it, even if it makes some uncomfortable (i.e., Nick Fuentes et al).
White appears visibly perplexed and dismissive throughout his response. He questions the logic behind Webbon’s claims, mocking the idea that Holocaustianity is being weaponized as a bludgeon against young white men. He labels the rhetoric as anti-Semitic, repeatedly emphasizing phrases like “It’s all the Jews” to highlight what he sees as scapegoating. Once again, White urges everyone to think back to 2024, which we have done in the clip and will do so now.
Holocaustianity in 2024: “Et tu, Jimmy?”
Taking James White’s advice, we transition to 2024 clip in the same video. This was what we referred to at the time as Woke Wars II, wherein a cabal of Reformed men (including James White and Doug Wilson) attempted to take down Joel Webbon’s ministry over a holocaust meme.
Briefly, the meme depicted a mother explaining the Holocaust to her child as “the time when Jews were made to do manual labor and they said it was killing them.” James White condemned those who laughed at or shared the meme, stating they need to repent or face immediate church discipline, and, if in leadership, step down. White concluded with a stern warning: “Don’t make me name names because I will.” He also exhorted Christians to leave their church if such matters were not being dealt with appropriately, which some families at Joel Webbon’s church did end up doing.
This underscored his commitment to upholding the mainstream narrative of the holocaust as a test for Christian fellowship. By doing so, White has proven Webbon correct, as he is using the holocaust narrative to punish young men (a German-American who sent a holocaust meme in this case) for breaking a blasphemy law.
Conclusion
This episode once again illustrates why White struggles to recognize Holocaustianity’s alleged impact: he is absolutely steeped in it, treating challenges to the official narrative as intolerable heresy. The larger issue here is a tacit acceptance of Judeo-Christianity, which is no Christianity at all. For Joel Webbon’s part, he is moving forward into 2026 with renewed vigor and an expanded platform. We would wish to live in peace with Team Antioch, but 2024 and 2025 have shown that to be nigh impossible.
Though James White has blocked us, he did offer this response to my tweet, which completely misses the point. The issue not whether the holocaust occurred or not or if it was as bad as official reports indicate. Rather, we are challenging the idea of the holocaust (or any extra-biblical event) being used as a test for Christian fellowship. There is no room for any sacred cows in Christendom.
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Rather, we are challenging the idea of the holocaust (or any extra-biblical event) being used as a test for Christian fellowship.
What kind of test exactly? Are you saying that if a Christian denies the holocaust or it’s severity, that that’s ok to do so but don’t judge his faith by it? I agree there should be no sacred cows in Christianity, however, I don’t like the doors such a denial or less severe impact, it opens one to to justify enmity against the Jewish people.
Essential to the holocaust narrative is that all European descended peoples bear responsibility for it, which is something conservative Jews will openly admit.