Matt Walsh is the most popular commentator on The Daily Wire and one of the few with credibility across most of the right. Meanwhile, Nick Fuentes has long been an outsider looking in, outlasting the censorship to become a formidable voice on the right. The two had a productive dialog on what the point of division on the right should be.
If we’re going to have a conservative civil war, the dividing line should be those who believe in protecting and preserving marriage, the family, and unborn life vs those indifferent or opposed. You can’t be a conservative in any meaningful sense if you don’t want to conserve the bedrock of civilization itself.
To which, Fuentes responded:
The dividing line should be Israel First vs America First, actually.
To a large degree, they are addressing the same thing, or at least how the same division has manifested over the years. Back in 2018-2019, Charlie Kirk was functionally for gay marriage, something he did not meaningfully oppose until 2022. Ben Shapiro, the biggest name in Conservative Inc., famously articulated that the government should get out of marriage entirely, as though this novel libertarian solution was a viable defense of marriage.
Whereas Kirk’s views shifted, in large part due to Fuentes, Shapiro remains a figure of the Israel First or Kosher Right.
The debate touches on the friend-enemy distinction and whether those who agree on Israel but promote degeneracy are allies. Matt Walsh says no. Allies are one thing. Cobelligerents are another. The anti-Israel left is in no way an ally, but I would rather be cobelligerents with them than Dave Rubin or James Lindsay, the latter emerging as a Zionist apologist.
Fuentes states:
You said the dividing line in the “conservative civil war” should be gay adoption & abortion. Those issues should just be a non-starter for the Right. The much more imminent & divisive question is whether our Civilization will be dominated by Organized Jewry and its accomplices.
Fuentes views gay adoption as beneath the debate because anyone who supports that isn’t on the right anyway. And he has a point. However, many in Conservative Inc supported Dave Rubin when he and his buttbuddy bought children via IVF and surrogacy. Perhaps that reveals how gay Conservative Inc. is, which, surely, corresponds to how pro-Israel they have been for decades. After all, one of the selling points of Israel is the myth that Muslims throw gays off of buildings. (Muslims are actually quite gay, contrary to belief.)
Republicans were all to quick to sacrifice marriage but are fighting tooth and nail for an unpopular war with Iran that looks to cost them the midterms. This makes Israel First the true dividing point on the right, as a foreign nation and its lobby have superimposed themselves on American politics. Perhaps the issue of gay adoption is a nonstarter on the right. Or perhaps the issue of who is American and whom the American government should serve is so basic that our discourse has devolved, comparable to not knowing what marriage was, leading to not knowing what gender is.
Aristotle argues that a collective will is necessary to oppose tyranny. A collective will needs a shared identity and common ideals. And what the right has long needed was an articulate positive vision. Make America Great Again captured this sentiment, but it will need specifics. Christian Nationalism, I believe, is the solution to this, as it casts a positive vision for the opposition of the ineffectual tyranny Americans face.
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